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heavensqueen wrote in yuletide_coal
Yuletide is firing up the ovens already. Discuss the discussion about the changes of rules here


Flat: http://yuletide-coal.livejournal.com/5786.html?view=flat

So what's the deal with the 750 limit?

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Mods seem dead set on this 750 special limit on linked fandoms. General consensus says everything should be the same, and having a different limit is just going to create extra work for the mods. Only thing I can figure is that there's one particular fandom they want to ban?

Re: So what's the deal with the 750 limit?

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That, or it's just an arbitrary number they're using to sort of punish people who like all these spin-off fandoms that make things difficult for everybody.

Although I like your thing too. Yuletide conspiracies are my fave.

Conspiracy Theory Material Ahoy

(Anonymous)
It's probably just some wrangler being an idiot, but the timing of someone merging the live-action Sailor Moon (was eligible for certain chars last year, might be eligible with new rules this year) into the anime is pretty fucking funny.

http://yuletide-admin.livejournal.com/170742.html?thread=7248118#t7248118

Re: Conspiracy Theory Material Ahoy

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Already separated back out.

THIS JUST IN

(Anonymous)
Optional Details are Optional - Except When It's Clint/Coulson!

"More specifically, there are many cases in which writer offers canon, requester asks for canon, requester says "it must have ponies and a vore scene", writer says "!!", and the mods tell them "optional details are optional". This happens, it sucks, ODAO. We are talking about the (possibly) more avoidable scenario in which someone says, "Thanks for offering Hawkeye! I ship Clint/Coulson.""

Personally I would have assumed ODAO applies there as well but the mods are behaving as though it doesn't and that's why the convoluted rules are absolutely necessary, to prevent people from being forced, forced I say, to write megapairings.

Re: THIS JUST IN

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What do you mean, this just in? That comment's been up for days.

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What happened to the Books/Fanfic/Fanart Post?

(Anonymous)
Weren't they supposed to do a post on Books, Fanfic, and Fanart on the 30th?

Re: What happened to the Books/Fanfic/Fanart Post?

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Yeah, I'm waiting for it... It's the one where I have a lot to say/argue, depending on what they end up writing. So I'd rather not miss it (which is likely if they end up posting it randomly in a few days) :\

Books/Fanworks Post is Up!

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http://yuletide-admin.livejournal.com/171165.html

http://yuletide-admin.dreamwidth.org/659.html

Re: Books/Fanworks Post is Up!

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Wow this post is quiet. I guess everyone's doing their venting in namespace? Or have LJ issues just got that much worse since last year?

More Conspiracy

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They may want to keep fandoms out, but they will also do anything to keep Discworld in.
I can't remember any discussion in the past about splitting it up, but now that it gets to the limit again, this is suddenly an option.

Re: More Conspiracy

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Parts of it actually have been nominated separately in the past, specifically Monstrous Women.

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State of Untherius

(Anonymous)
Untherius and his recipient discuss Untherius's writing choices in his Not Prime Time assignment: http://archiveofourown.org/works/1879149?show_comments=true#comments

Re: State of Untherius

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He is married?!?! FML....

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Popular Fandoms 2014

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What do you think are going to be this year's "Big for Yuletide" fandoms?

I think Fargo (TV series) might be pretty popular.

Re: Popular Fandoms 2014

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Maleficent.
The Vorkosigan books.
I don't know when Gotham comes out, but if it comes out in time, Gotham.

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NEW RULES

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Placeholders and socks now officially banned.

....not sure if I want to give up my valet.

Re: NEW RULES

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Where does it say socks are banned? How would they even know?

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FANDOMS YOU'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO

(Anonymous)
What are you nominating/hoping is nominated, coalies? Anything new since last year?

Re: FANDOMS YOU'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO

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Outlander! My love for this cheesy novel series has been rekindled by the Starz series.

Who the hell is Morbane, and why is she saying things like "Well, I'm sorry you feel like the rules treat people like they're going to misbehave. Perhaps it's that this post in particular is about several issues of people misbehaving, though these are not at ALL the majority experiences in the challenge. "

Is she a mod? Did she formerly call herself something else?

The mods are having a couple of people answer questions for them, this year, from the tag mods group. Mostly it's been Morbane and Moriann. Jenn mentioned them by name in an earlier post.

YT is seriously my favorite time of year, fandom-wise, thanks in part to this comm. i track this post and the fact that i'm starting to get at least 1-2 _coal comments a day makes me so excited

it's almost time

Right here with you, coalie. :D

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Eligibility rules are up

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http://yuletide-admin.livejournal.com/171681.html

Re: Eligibility rules are up

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Looking at some old fandoms that have been popular in previous Yuletides...

Agents of SHIELD: Definitely out.
Elementary: Still in.
Sleepy Hollow: Still in.
Lewis: Still in.
Community: Potentially back in depending on how much fic gets posted between now and nominations. Currently sitting at around 950 complete fics over 1k on AO3 and FF.net together. I predict that this one will cause the biggest borderline fandom arguments this year.
Grimm: Back in.

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Pimping post

(Anonymous)
When does the fandom pimping post go up?

Re: Pimping post

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Whenever someone does it? The brainstorming post just went up, so...

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Wanky letter-help me find it?

(Anonymous)
Anyone have a link or a screencap of that bipagan letter from a few years ago, the one that wanted the SPN crossover?

Re: Wanky letter-help me find it?

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This will forever by my favourite Yuletide wank.


yuleporn

(Anonymous)
I missed it last year so could someone give me a head's up if it is happening this year? Thanks!

Re: yuleporn

(Anonymous)
It was organised by a random participant, so your choices are to either go back through the Yuletide comm to find out who and ask them, OR start it yourself.

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Other people's nominations

(Anonymous)
Someone's talking about nominating Backdraft. That's kind of a strange thing to ask for, or is it just me? I also don't get the person who wants to nominate TV Constantine even though that isn't even airing until late October. You can't be sure you'll like it!

Have YOU seen anything in other people's nominations that have caught your eye? Doesn't matter if it's in a good or bad way, let's just get some talk going!

Re: Other people's nominations

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I'm not sure what's so strange about it. Also I don't think it's strange to want to nominate Constantine. Maybe they like the comics or know what type of stuff they like. I've nominated movies I know I'd like before I saw them.

Yuletide still hates comics; news at eleven

(Anonymous)
http://yuletide-admin.livejournal.com/171681.html?thread=7391649#t7391649

I love how both morian and llywden completely fail to address any of heeroluva's actual points.

Man, I was kind of hoping the comics fans wouldn't get crapped on this year, just for a change. Guess not.

Man, I already hate dealing with Moriann and I've never met her before. That was unnecessarily fuck you in attitude. Really, Moriann, you couldn't just say "Under X Rule the answer is Y", you had to pull the old "The plans were in a filing cabinet with a sign marked Beware the Leopard for a month, why didn't you complain then"?

And what's so wrong about talking things out with participants civilly? Really bad communication skills. If any Yuletide mods are stalking this meme, allow me to say, a little civility and politeness goes far. Trying to explain why you feel a rule does not make sense in a fandom's context does not make you a wank-stirrer who deserves to be told to shut up.

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How the hell do you edit a WIP on AO3 to show how many parts it will be? Like, I'm writing a trilogy so I want it to say 2/3 instead of 2/?. I'm positive I've seen other people do it, but I can't for the life of me figure out how to do it.

Re: OT

(Anonymous)
Dunno about you, but I click "Edit Work". On the resulting page, near the bottom of the "Associations" box, I see (ticked) "This work has multiple chapters" and underneath that, "Chapter 1 of 3" for my 2/3 WIP story. The [3] is in a text box, so can be updated.

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Number of requests?

(Anonymous)
I keep seeing people saying that you have to make four requests. That's not right, is it? I was under the impression it was three, the same number as you have nomination slots.

Re: Number of requests?

(Anonymous)
I believe that you do have to make four - the idea being that you have to request at least one fandom somebody else nominated, in order to theoretically help with matching.

Of course, dentists help with that.

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is that a thing?

(Anonymous)
somebody in the pimping post tried selling their fandom by saying it had Latin@s. is...that a thing, now? and here i thought the term POC was dumb!

Re: is that a thing?

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Like, with the @ sign in it? I haven't seen that. But obviously Latinas are real. :)

(OT: these advertising captchas are really annoying.)

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Oh my God, Livejournal is soooooo wonky. Can't we move to DW?

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+1 I HATE IT SO MUCH.

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just no

(Anonymous)
Person nominating one issue of a Spidey comic that isn't even out yet, because oh-my-god there's a girl as the main character and she's a rock star how cool and Strong Female Character TM:

"I'm gonna be honest, I don't know jack about Spider-Man continuity or characters besides the basic outlines of the movies."

GO AWAY.

Re: just no

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Wait, isn't that one of the people who's been arguing all over the comics threads about how unfair the mods are being to comics fans?

Which... may be true? I dunno. But wow, comics fans, way to represent.

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someone's going to nominate the fucking Penguins?!?!

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http://yuletide.livejournal.com/1196884.html?thread=18260052#t18260052

If the Blackhawks wind up eligible for Yuletide, I'm going to flip every table on the internet.

Re: someone's going to nominate the fucking Penguins?!?!

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There's a thread for this already...

Dear Yuletide Mods

(Anonymous)
Let's let them know what we really think.

(I mean, we all know they go here...)

Re: Dear Yuletide Mods

(Anonymous)
Whether or not a fandom is a pain for you guys to deal with should have zero bearing on whether it's eligible. The only thing that should count to eligibility is obscurity/number of fics written for the fandom. Figuring that shit out, and making judgement calls that are fair to everyone (not just yourselves!), is your job as mods.

If that is too difficult for you, or takes too much of your time, then maybe don't be a mod.

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